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  • Huge Houston Series June 2-4

    Houston comes in averaging just under 9 runs per game in their last 7. They are on pace to win 114 games. To counter we bring forth Darvish, Cashner and Perez.

    I say we need another dug-out clearing brawl...or at least a chin to chin with Bannister and Hinch. Let's kick 'dem boys back to Houston.

    *No way they keep it up.

  • #2
    Now you're talking. Maybe the best thing for now is some rainouts. The next home stand against the Astros is in August when we can make up the games at full strength. The one after that is in September. August and September are when the Astros carriage always turns back into a pumpkin.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Flounder1 View Post
      Now you're talking. Maybe the best thing for now is some rainouts. The next home stand against the Astros is in August when we can make up the games at full strength. The one after that is in September. August and September are when the Astros carriage always turns back into a pumpkin.
      I'd still like to get one tonight...weather is clearing for at least awhile it seems.

      BTW, Carl...I do like and enjoy you and hope we can return to a more friendly tone w/each other. :-)
      Last edited by ProfarMVP; 06-02-2017, 08:47 PM.

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      • #4
        The gap between the Astros and Rangers this year is enormous. We don't even belong on the same field right now.

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        • #5
          It doesn't matter. When we go into the postseason with Hamels, Darvish and Ross the dynamics are totally different. Right now we are in survival mode, just trying to get into the Wild Card chase. If we can do that the next two months while getting players back, then get into the postseason, what Houston did back in early June will mean nothing. Absolutely zero.

          It will be far sweeter to beat the Astros in the ALCS than now. Who wins then is a matter of who is healthy and rolling, not who had the best record in June.

          Remember, when Seattle won all those games they were blown out of the postseason in the first round. In fact, we had a somewhat similar experience last year.

          Once in the postseason, anything can happen and always does

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Flounder1 View Post
            It doesn't matter. When we go into the postseason with Hamels, Darvish and Ross the dynamics are totally different. Right now we are in survival mode, just trying to get into the Wild Card chase. If we can do that the next two months while getting players back, then get into the postseason, what Houston did back in early June will mean nothing. Absolutely zero.

            It will be far sweeter to beat the Astros in the ALCS than now. Who wins then is a matter of who is healthy and rolling, not who had the best record in June.

            Remember, when Seattle won all those games they were blown out of the postseason in the first round. In fact, we had a somewhat similar experience last year.

            Once in the postseason, anything can happen and always does
            Give me your honest assessment, Flounder. Does this look like a playoff team to you?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by dannyboy8517 View Post

              Give me your honest assessment, Flounder. Does this look like a playoff team to you?
              Take the equivalent of Hamels, Ross, Beltre, Gomez and Leclerc off any team and it won't look like a playoff team, not to mention Dyson who was a bust this year. Put them back, and, yes, it's a team that can win in the postseason. Again, imagine if the Astros lost Keuchel, McCullers, Correa, Reddick and Feliz. Would they look like a playoff team? No! Imagine further, Giles loses six games and you have the situation the Rangers are in to date. That does not change the fact that if we get all of our players back we will be a better team that can win the playoffs. It's just like 2015, hanging in there to see what happens. Already, we're starting to see how Beltre and Leclerc can help this team. We need more of the DL players to be on the field is all, but you can see the rest of the month should go much better than May with Beltre and Leclerc on the team. We will likely add Gomez and Ross this month, as well.

              What we really need to do is add a relief pitcher. Ibanaz would be good player to trade because he's blocked by Odor and Profar and we could get a good relief pitcher for him. Add the new relief pitcher to Bush, Claudio, Leclerc and Kela and we would finally have the makings of a good bullpen. The bullpen has been what has killed this team. Fix it, get our injured players back and this team can soar!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Flounder1
                Take the equivalent of Hamels, Ross, Beltre, Gomez and Leclerc off any team and it won't look like a playoff team, not to mention Dyson who was a bust this year. Put them back, and, yes, it's a team that can win in the postseason. Again, imagine if the Astros lost Keuchel, McCullers, Correa, Reddick and Feliz. Would they look like a playoff team? No! Imagine further, Giles loses six games and you have the situation the Rangers are in to date. That does not change the fact that if we get all of our players back we will be a better team that can win the playoffs. It's just like 2015, hanging in there to see what happens. Already, we're starting to see how Beltre and Leclerc can help this team. We need more of the DL players to be on the field is all, but you can see the rest of the month should go much better than May with Beltre and Leclerc on the team. We will likely add Gomez and Ross this month, as well. What we really need to do is add a relief pitcher. Ibanaz would be good player to trade because he's blocked by Odor and Profar and we could get a good relief pitcher for him. Add the new relief pitcher to Bush, Claudio, Leclerc and Kela and we would finally have the makings of a good bullpen. The bullpen has been what has killed this team. Fix it, get our injured players back and this team can soar!
                Of the players you mentioned, who in opinion is a true difference maker? Beltre? Without much input from the coaches, the hitters look like a mess. There doesn't seem to be a direction in what they want to do. There is ZERO plate discipline with these guys... ZERO situational hitting... I saw Odor and Lucroy strike out on pitches that bounced before they got to there plate. I see Gallo take a swing at the first pitch and his mind was made up to seeing at the first pitch.. No matter where it was.

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                • #9
                  I don't think the missing players would have made much difference against Houston. Yu is our best pitcher and we lost that game 7-1. As dannyboy said...Houston's roster is just much better top to bottom.

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                  • #10
                    No, Houston is just hitting out of their minds right now. There are several batters having career years as of now. Eventually, they will cool off.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Redcap View Post
                      No, Houston is just hitting out of their minds right now. There are several batters having career years as of now. Eventually, they will cool off.
                      Carlos Correa has an unsustainable BABIP, but he's an emerging star...at age 22. Altuve is just doing what he do...and he be a star. Springer is another star, a complete player..a guy who can put up big offensive numbers and still field center field.

                      Marwin Gonzalez? Yeah maybe he's out of his mind so far this season and will fall back. Career numbers would sure suggest that.

                      So a look around their line-up shows 3 guys who are all-star caliber players and a lot of solid players at other positions. What stars do we have that aren't 38 years old? And can we say we are solid at first base? Secondly base? Left field?

                      The gap in pitching is even greater.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ProfarMVP View Post

                        Carlos Correa has an unsustainable BABIP, but he's an emerging star...at age 22. Altuve is just doing what he do...and he be a star. Springer is another star, a complete player..a guy who can put up big offensive numbers and still field center field.

                        Marwin Gonzalez? Yeah maybe he's out of his mind so far this season and will fall back. Career numbers would sure suggest that.

                        So a look around their line-up shows 3 guys who are all-star caliber players and a lot of solid players at other positions. What stars do we have that aren't 38 years old? And can we say we are solid at first base? Secondly base? Left field?

                        The gap in pitching is even greater.
                        So Marisnick isn't also in the out of your mind group? His OPS is a few hundred points higher than his career.

                        Outside of Keuchel who's been pretty sharp, I'd still take Yu, Hamels, and even Perez. The Astros are struggling with their 3, 4, and 5 pitchers and the only reason they are doing so well is the amount of runs they are scoring.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Redcap View Post
                          So Marisnick isn't also in the out of your mind group? His OPS is a few hundred points higher than his career.

                          Outside of Keuchel who's been pretty sharp, I'd still take Yu, Hamels, and even Perez. The Astros are struggling with their 3, 4, and 5 pitchers and the only reason they are doing so well is the amount of runs they are scoring.
                          Marisnick has only had 80 at bat all season...so I haven't considered him as a primary.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ProfarMVP View Post

                            Marisnick has only had 80 at bat all season...so I haven't considered him as a primary.
                            Marisnick is also a former top-70 prospect who just turned 26 in March. The possibility exists that he's finally found his footing after a slow start to his major league career. I don't believe he's a .900 OPS guy, but he's also probably better than the .225/.268/.339 line he posted over his first 1,000 plate appearances.

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                            • #15
                              Ross and Hamels are way better than Cashner and Perez. Of course our odds against the Astros goes way up if they are healthy. It's mindless to not think so.

                              Add another good relief pitcher to Bush, Claudio, Leclerc and Kela, plus Gomez's bat and the odds of beating the Astros increases even more.

                              I'm sure JD has his eyes on a relief pitcher in case we can get these guys well and start streaking. We've seen good stuff from Beltre and Leclerc already. Too bad the Astros are still better, but our medical team isn't done, yet.

                              It'll all start to pay off soon. The situation will be greatly improved by the trade deadline.

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